Comments on: No on Props 1A-1F

By: Brittanicus

Brittanicus — Fri, 01 May 2009 23:14:40 +0000

Proposition 1A through 1F of the propositions in the upcoming special election consider a NO vote, because it’s downright fraud. Remember you are paying for prison cells, education health care and other forced Federal mandates for illegal alien families. Since proposition 187 those people in Sacramento have stuck it to you. Welfare – $1.8 to $3 billion per year is lost due to fraud in the Food Stamps, Medi-Cal and Cal WORKS programs. Remove illegal immigrants and felons from Cal WORKS. More than 42 percent of California’s taxpayer-funded, Medi-Cal births are to illegal immigrant mothers. Every month, $37 million in welfare and food stamps, health care goes to illegal alien families in Los Angeles county.

A blockbuster example of fraud is the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). Economics writer Ed Rubenstein’s new report, “The Earned Income Tax Credit and Illegal Immigration: A Study in Fraud, Abuse, and Liberal Activism,” The author says immigrants collected about $12 billion from the EITC last year, the majority not paying a cent towards it. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation found high school-dropouts-who headed households pay an average of $9,700 a year in taxes but collect an average of $32,138 a year in benefits. All this money in real dollars is procured from unaware taxpayers. Surf NUMBERSUSA for the truth not the propaganda you expect for the open border zealots.our

From Maven: I appreciate you coming by and sharing your opinion. I have said many
times that you do not have to agree with me to post here.

This post illustrates that people can oppose 1A-1F for very different reasons.

You hurt your case by citing the Heritage Foundation in your post as they are extremely biased.

The rightwing hysteria over undocumented workers is merely a wedge issue.
This post is an example of scapegoating. Nowhere do I hear any ire against
those who employ these workers without offering health coverage.

It is simply the truth that nationally, udocumented workers are a plus for
our country and our economy. The problem is at the local and state level because
states and counties have to bear the burden employers should be carrying.

One can argue that white old people who get social security and medicare
get more money than they have paid – simply because our health care system is broken.

Undocumented workers are exposed to neurotoxins in our fields and often are exposed
to unsafe workplaces and wait until their conditions require more expensive emergency or chronic health care intervention.

Are you really saying that we should kick undocumented women
in labor out of the emergency room to give birth somewhere in unsanitary conditions?
Do you want to deny that woman pre-natal care to that new citizen of our country?

What I have noticed about those who oppose illegal immigration is that they seem to think that
the undocumented are leading somehow better existence than them. It is as if they think
they think jobs, money, and opportunity are taken away from them by the undocumented.
I challenge these people to switch circumstances with them for a week and I bet they wouldn’t
be able to do it.

I bet this scapegoating has everything to do with the right wing propaganda from Fox News and
Lou Dobbs who focus attention on the undocumented working poor, instead of those on Wall Street who
have emptied your retirement funds and caused this economic downturn.

By: Yikes! Thoughts on Proposition 1D | Marin Maven

Yikes! Thoughts on Proposition 1D | Marin Maven — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:55:56 +0000

[...] yikes123, who supports 1D stopped by yesterday to question my NO endorsement. First of all, I would like to thank that person for caring [...]

By: yikes123

yikes123 — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:49:57 +0000

Hey Marin Maven – please do some research – get some more facts!

- – - – - – - – - – Prop 1D is a GREAT IDEA! – - – - – - – - – - – - -

- – - – $500 MILLION+ First 5 dollars went up in smoke ?!?!?! – - – - –

NONE of that cash went to children 0 to 5!

It went to the Compensation and Retention Encourage Stability initiative, called “CARES”.

According to the 06/07 San Diego First 5 Eval report (p 170), the CARES initiative “originated in response to a major child care crisis: … high (staff) turnovers rates…”.

Amongst other things, CARES simply paid people to work BUT on p. 171 it says THEY ARE STILL LEAVING in droves – with a 22% annual turnover rate, within 5-7 years, there could be a 100%+ turn. And those who stay: will they get paid by CARES to?

A highlight: CARES paid people who already had Master’s degrees+ up to $5,000 to stay in their jobs (from the public CARES database).

First 5 spent over $500 MILLION on this “solution” (from state audited financial statements)

Can anyone say: POOF?

Vote YES on 1D!

By: yikes123

yikes123 — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:45:16 +0000

FIRST 5 SPENT $100 MILLION+ on CONSULTANTS

Although some expenditure for evaluating programs is required by the First 5 statute, over the last 7 or so years, audited financial statements reveal that First 5 commissions have spent approximately $100 MILLION on evaluation. How can it cost that much?

Well, First 5 evaluation payments go mainly to private consulting firms like Harder and Company, not to children 0 to 5!

Based on audited financial statements and adding a standard 3% for inflation, an analysis shows that in 10 years, they are on course to spend over $300 MILLION on evaluation.

In 15 years, it will top $500 MILLION. In 25 years: $1 BILLION dollars+.

First 5 Commissioners are misspending funds: Proposition 10 was not meant to make the evaluators RICH!

Let’s get ourselves out of this budget mess – VOTE YES on 1D!